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		<title>Nice Guys Get Angry? (You Wouldn’t Know It!)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A post about overly nice guys who have a hard time getting angry or mad, and stuff their feelings.]]></description>
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<p>Anger and nice guys don’t mix very well. Because nice guys are known to stuff their emotions, and anger is an emotion, the cycle of avoidance never gets broken. Nice guys get angry because their needs aren’t being met, and most times, nice guys don’t even know what they need. They’re swimming in the dark, yet live in a world that they need to interact with. Because life is a series of interactions and interplay between needs and need gratification, lack of awareness about what those needs are leads to a lack of gratifying them.</p>
<p>So what do I mean by “needs”? I think we can all agree on the general definition of what needs are, because we have many different layers of them. We have a need to eat, to sleep, to excrete, and to have sex. Higher order needs are also needs, and include needs for love, validation, understanding, compassion, and avoidance of pain. As people, we also have a need for pleasure. The list can be quite infinite, and will vary drastically between different people.</p>
<p>Whereas I have a need to be validated for my efforts as a relationship partner or as a business owner, the next guy may have very different needs. He may need power, and may seek that out through a variety of different channels. The basic motivation to get those needs met will be so different for each person, so it’s really hard to set one standard of needs for everyone. This is where it gets tough, because many mail clients that I work with who don’t know how to recognize their own needs, end up comparing and contrasting themselves and their needs to their friends, family, and culture in general. Although our culture and society has some generally universal needs, they vary by degrees.</p>
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<p>How does anger factor into all of this, you ask? I think that when men’s needs to go unmet and unattended to, they do not goaway. Instead, they lie dormant and mutate into other types of feelings. Anger is a byproduct of not getting those needs met. Although there are other emotions underlying anger &#8212; like sadness, emptiness, helplessness or loss of control &#8212; those are emotions that are even more obscured with most men today.</p>
<p>If you can picture the cross-section of an Everlasting Gobstopper, you’ll see that it would be comprised of layer upon layer of coatings. Imagine emotions are like a Gobstopper: they are many in number and layer similarly. At the core, we have emotions that consists of sadness, emptiness, pain, loss of control, and other very basic emotions. Go out one more layer and we find the more “empowering” emotions, like anger. Anger empowers us to act, and yet is an outer layer that obscures the more basic emotions. For many guys &#8212; especially nice guys &#8212; continue to go out to one more layer and you’ll find a layer of fear.</p>
<p>Fear of anger is a whole different matter. Many guys are just simply too afraid of their own anger or rage, so they end up stuffing it and coating it with a layer of fear. The fear layer then translates into behaviors that communicate that fear when there are situations or people that trigger the anger. Instead of getting angry, a lot of guys are so disconnected from their own anger and go to the fear place immediately. They shut their whole emotional system down, and continue to compress their emotions and avoid them. This is a disastrous cycle, because these men are muzzling themselves every time they are provoked. I’m not suggesting that they fly into a fit of rage and put her fist through the wall. What I am suggesting is that getting in touch with that basic experience of anger is an important first step to recognizing that it even exists.</p>
<p>The whole thing for nice guys: they’re not going to express their anger because it will lead to devastating to actually express the anger to the recipient. Instead, nice guys will swallow their anger, where it ends up mutating into much worse problems for the host nice guy.</p>
<p>So what happens to the anger when a nice guy stuffs it? A lot of things. Because the anger is not being communicated directly to the people that need here at, it ferments within a nice guy. But anger needs to come out in some way, and it often comes out through the forms of sarcasm, criticism, self-criticism, superiority, judgmentality, and on the other end of spectrum, rage and acting out physically.</p>
<p>A lot of nice guys are also smart guys. Smart guys being who they are often reside in their heads most of the time. The very skills and abilities that smart guys have used to create success in their lives, such as in their professional lives, are the worst skills to deal with anger. Smart guys also have the unique ability to intellectualize their anger, and this is another form of fermenting that anger loves. When I talk to guys who come in because they can’t deal with their anger, we always end up talking about how they try to “think their way out of their anger”, but it never works. I was asked them “so how is it worked for you up until this point?” These guys usually say, “well, not to good. on here and counseling now aren’t I?”</p>
<p>This tendency to <strong>intellectualize our anger</strong> is a real problem. We become hamsters in our own mental wheels, spinning ourselves into a mental oblivion. We also try to apply those same election will skills to solving our marriage and relationship problems, and those skills and tools are about not very successful to fixing those problems.</p>
<p>When nice guys get mad after having said “yes”, they tend to stuff that voice within them that really doesn’t want to say “yes”. By not saying ‘no’, these guys swallow what they really want because they’re too afraid that and they’ll be rejected by saying ‘no’. And this phenomenon plays out in all sorts of areas of the guy’s life: work, friendships, intimate relationships, within family relationships and on and on.</p>
<p><strong>Stuffing anger</strong> is a real problem, because anger slowly builds up over time when it gets stuffed. Each incident of stuffing one’s anger and not saying no creates a compounding effect, where people to comes more difficult to say no and anger festers even <a href="http://phoenixmenscounseling.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Boom.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-502" src="http://phoenixmenscounseling.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Boom-300x230.jpg" alt="Boom 300x230 Nice Guys Get Angry? (You Wouldn’t Know It!)  " width="210" height="161" title="Nice Guys Get Angry? (You Wouldn’t Know It!)  " /></a>more. Others may even notice that we where anger on our faces or in our behavior, and not know why. We may not even know why we’re angry, and not connect the dots to know that by not saying no to others when we don’t mean it, creates this cause-and-effect relationship.</p>
<p>For a lot of men who can’t say no, they have to release their anger in some way. This often comes out in a variety of ways, that we’ll identify here:</p>
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<li> drinking alcohol to cover up anger</li>
<li> acting more feeling superior to others</li>
<li> being overly critical or judgmental of others, or oneself</li>
<li> feeling stressed all the time, and not knowing why</li>
<li> feeling stressed all the time, and knowing why, but not doing anything about it</li>
<li> feeling like the “weight of the world” is on them</li>
<li> feeling like they’re working too hard</li>
<li> concerned that others don’t appreciate what they’re doing</li>
<li> working too hard in general</li>
<li> feeling constantly angry, or even rageful</li>
<li> getting physically angry, and doing things like putting your fist through the doors or walls</li>
<li> not taking care of themselves, or not knowing how to</li>
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		<title>Signs of Depression</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 17:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You may be struggling with depression and not know it. Here are some of the signs to look out for if you suspect you&#8217;re dealing with depression: 1. Lack of pleasure in things you usually find pleasing 2. Significant weight loss or gain 3. Feel sad a lot of the time, for prolonged periods of [...]]]></description>
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<p>You may be struggling with depression and not know it. Here are some of the signs to look out for if you suspect you&#8217;re dealing with depression:</p>
<p>1. Lack of pleasure in things you usually find pleasing</p>
<p>2. Significant weight loss or gain</p>
<p>3. Feel sad a lot of the time, for prolonged periods of time</p>
<p>4. Feeling unclear, fuzzy or lacking attention; inability to concentrate</p>
<p>5. Irritable, angry or generally unhappy</p>
<p>6. Feeling worthless</p>
<p>7. Excessive guilt</p>
<p>8. Feeling flat or unmotivated</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult to actually admit that it might be depression that you&#8217;re suffering from. Sometimes, we write these symptoms off to other things, such as stress or interpersonal problems we&#8217;re dealing with. For men, it&#8217;s harder to put the signs of depression together and admit that they&#8217;re depressed; culturally, depression implies a sign of weakness or inferiority, so many men who struggle with depression make it worse by hiding it or putting off treatment.</p>
<p>There is help for depression. A combination of antidepressant medications and professional counseling will help. A change in lifestyle, whether that&#8217;s more exercise, better sleep, social support, better dieting and nutrition, or investment in more meaningful activities or deeper relationships also ease the pain of depression. Depression is a multi-facted problem, with many possible causes and treatments. But, first, simply admitting that there&#8217;s a problem is the first step.</p>
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		<title>Men in Pain</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 17:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do men in pain hold it in up until the last minute, and then seek out help when the damage has been done? Are men naturally predisposed to pain aversion? What would happen if men were to more proactively seek out mental health counseling or therapy before an otherwise manageable problem ended up destroying [...]]]></description>
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<p>Why do men in pain hold it in up until the last minute, and then seek out help when the damage has been done? Are men naturally predisposed to pain aversion? What would happen if men were to more proactively seek out mental health counseling or therapy before an otherwise manageable problem ended up destroying them?</p>
<p>Men are beings not socialized to seek out resources and social support the way women do. Women can seek out the comfort and support of friends and family, whereas men tend to hide and obscure their pain in private. A lot of this has to do with the stigmatization of what it means to be a man in our culture. Men are taught, from an early age on, that &#8220;real men don&#8217;t cry&#8221;, and to stuff our emotions and shift into mastery or accomplishment mode to overcome adversity and get things done in the world.</p>
<p>The effect is that problems fester and grow, like mushrooms growing in the dark and dampness of a dead tree. Without light, these problems will get larger, be they marriage problems, work-related issues or general mental health issues.</p>
<p>Depression has many causes, but it gets exacerbated by this effect. Depression can be treated by medications and/or therapy or counseling, but many men succumb to &#8220;suffering in silence&#8221; and don&#8217;t seek it out until facets of their life start to crack at the foundations. They choose to seek pain alleviation when things are bad, and possibly irreparable.</p>
<p>Seeking out a professional counselor for help, and stepping out of denial and stigmatization, are huge tasks for men to do. Often, it&#8217;s the bulk of the work just getting there to want help. Seeking out that help proactively is critical in learning the skills needed to learn to help oneself, so that life can get easier, relationships better, and quality of life can be improved.</p>
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		<title>Scared Little Boys</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 22:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Men dealing with fear is one issue that is so common among guys, yet hardly talked about. Questions to consider: How much of a man&#8217;s defensive posturing covers up his feelings of fear? Are we really that far removed from that scared little 5 or 6 year old boy inside of us? How does running [...]]]></description>
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<p>Men dealing with fear is one issue that is so common among guys, yet hardly talked about.</p>
<p>Questions to consider:</p>
<ul>
<li>How much of a man&#8217;s defensive posturing covers up his feelings of fear?</li>
<li>Are we really that far removed from that scared little 5 or 6 year old boy inside of us?</li>
<li>How does running from the fear hurt us and our loved ones?</li>
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<p>The culture of men has no room for fear in our culture. American culture encourages guys to stuff it, annihilate it, drink it away, or obscure it with enough anger or rage. Men and fear don&#8217;t mix: they never have.</p>
<p>From ancient icons of warrior-kings to modern movie archetypes, men have historically been engaged in a war on fear, which has had negative effects on the planet and the environment, as well as in our families and relationships with ourselves.</p>
<p>Instead of staying with the emotional (and often physiological) experience of fear, men run from it. They hide, and, over time, construct fantasies and illusions that feed the fear and make it exponentially larger than it really is. We suppress and avoid the construct of fear, not really the fear itself. &#8220;The only thing we have to fear is fear itself,&#8221; proclaimed Franklin Delano Roosevelt said in his first inaugural address in 1932. The walls we construct around our fear makes us avoid it more.</p>
<p>We create imaginary sand castle fortresses, when the reality is that when we can truly experience our fear &#8211; in a lived, experiential way, and not just thinking about &#8211; then it reduces and goes away. Fear, like any emotion, is a natural emotion that needs to be processed. Think bodily functions, or how the body maintains itself in homeostasis.</p>
<p>Dealing with fear is critical to improving our relationships with others, be they business partners, wives and girlfriends, our children or, most importantly, with ourselves. Fear can be dealt with, but it needs acknowledgement. What it doesn&#8217;t need is to be swept under the rug anymore, because that just doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>Age Specific Relationship Challenges for Men</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A friend asked me this really great question: &#8220;What are the specific challenges that men face in relationships at during each decade?&#8221; The question naturally led me to want to blog about it, and share it with you all. I accounted for three periods: 20&#8242;s, 30&#8242;s and 40&#8242;s, as these are generally the periods of [...]]]></description>
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<p>A friend asked me this really great question: &#8220;What are the specific challenges that men face in relationships at during each decade?&#8221; The question naturally led me to want to blog about it, and share it with you all. I accounted for three periods: 20&#8242;s, 30&#8242;s and 40&#8242;s, as these are generally the periods of life I work with, but feel free to add your own experiences/other decade challenges.</p>
<p>20-30&#8242;s: Still settling down, and finding themselves. Work and jobs are sporadic, so lots of long-distance relationships and conflict as a result. Guys in their 20&#8242;s are still into hooking up and partying, so they&#8217;re looking more for women who fit this bill (generally). Some get married, but are unhappy because the marriage is too early, or it wasn&#8217;t right for them (maturity levels low).</p>
<p>30-40&#8242;s: Settling down, getting married and having children. Guys have to deal with their lost youth and death of the &#8220;wild horse&#8221; mentality. Some guys hold onto youthful entrapments, such as partying, alcohol, video games, etc., which creates relationship/marriage tension and fighting this way. This is where the communication problems and issues start to ferment, for problems later into the next stage. Not knowing how to deal with everything: being a new dad, added responsibilities with their work/careers, and juggling it all creates stress and relationship strain. A lot of guys tend to start having problems, because they didn&#8217;t learn how to take care of themselves earlier on, or didn&#8217;t really have a need to take care of anyone else (e.g. wife, kid) other than themselves.</p>
<p>40-50&#8242;s: Kids are growing, and problems have fermented another decade. Couple has drifted away from each other, and the problems that have arisen in the 10-15 years since marriage have been avoided, or not dealt with. Money, things, trips have all been used as &#8220;happiness surrogates,&#8221; and are employed to stave off dealing with the real problems of unhappiness, sexual problems, loss of love, etc. Some men start to have affairs (although earlier stages, too) or lose themselves in other diversions other than their marriage, because that&#8217;s what they know, and that&#8217;s what culture encourages (alcohol, sports, video games, porn, etc.). Couple needs to reinvent their marriage, and create a reason to be together, other than &#8220;for the kids&#8221;. Men will also lose themselves in work and career, which is a socially-sanctioned place to go, yet slowly erodes a relationship over time. A lot of men who over-identify themselves with their work and careers unconsciously avoid their wives and their problems by dedicating themselves to their work. Phsycial problems can start to manifest as a function of problems not dealt with, with leads to depression, stress, pain, fatigue, etc. The body speaks, even when men are not.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Divorce tends to be emotionally gut-wrenching for the people who go through it (not to mention those around them). But most couples don’t realize that divorce can also be among the most ruinous financial moves anyone can make. Sure, you could bet big and lose on a single stock or money manager. Or your small [...]]]></description>
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<p>Divorce tends to be emotionally gut-wrenching for the people who go through it (not to mention those around them). But most couples don’t realize that divorce can also be among the most ruinous financial moves anyone can make.</p>
<p><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 13px;">Sure, you could bet big and lose on a single stock or money manager. Or your small business could go bankrupt, taking your life savings with it. But divorce and the costs that often come with it — from legal bills to the sudden need for an additional residence — affect far more people.</span></p>
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<p>The risk that any marriage will end in divorce is about 45 percent, according to <a title="David Popenoe bio." href="http://marriage.rutgers.edu/codirectors.html">David Popenoe</a>, a professor of sociology emeritus at <a title="More articles about Rutgers" href="http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/r/rutgers_the_state_university/index.html?inline=nyt-org">Rutgers University</a>. The chances fall to about 40 percent for first marriages and decline further for college-educated couples, people from intact families and couples who share the same religion.</p>
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<p>Given the various financial complications, I’ve long wanted to devote a series of columns to divorce and money. This week, I’ll start with a topic that could save some marriages if more people made it a priority. It’s crucial to air and resolve financial disagreements beforehand.</p>
<p>“It’s almost impossible to be hooked up to somebody who has the same balance of spender and saver as you, or expansiveness versus conservativeness or financial circumstances,” says Gregory A. Kuhlman, a New York City psychologist who runs <a title="About the programs and the practitioners." href="http://www.stayhitched.com/aboutus.htm">marriage success training programs</a>with his wife, Patricia Schell Kuhlman.</p>
<p>He adds that the mix gets even more volatile with second marriages, when couples may have children, ingrained financial habits and savings or other assets that necessitate the discussion of a prenuptial agreement. “Success in marriage is only partly attributable to compatibility. It’s about how you manage those differences and whether you have a style for doing so that is successful.”</p>
<p>What follows is a list of four financial issues that ought to be near the top of the discussion list before getting married. Please add to the list in the comments of the online version of this article.</p>
<p><span class="bold">ANCESTRY</span> When Lisa J. B. Peterson started her Boston-based financial planning firm,<a title="About Lantern." href="http://www.lantern-financial.com/whoweare.html">Lantern Financial</a>, she knew she wanted to focus her practice on young professionals. She quickly realized that many of them could use premarital financial counseling and built <a title="About Harmoney." href="http://www.lantern-financial.com/harmoney/">a program called Harmoney</a> around their needs.</p>
<p>One of the first things she asks clients about is what she refers to as their financial ancestry. “It’s looking back at your own personal past,” she says. “How did your parents deal with money, how does that impact how you deal with it, and how might that impact the couple’s relationship?”</p>
<p>Because so many of our money behaviors are learned, she asks couples to share their earliest money memories — whether their father hid money from their mother or how either parent fretted over the funds available. This can be a particularly intense discussion for people whose parents were divorced, and the stories are sometimes accompanied by tears. “Money is so emotional, and people forget that,” Ms. Peterson says. “You think that it’s just numbers.”</p>
<p><span class="bold">CREDIT</span> While it’s about the least romantic subject imaginable, your credit history holds a chunk of your permanent financial record. It follows naturally from the ancestry conversation, and Lantern Financial pulls <a title="More articles about credit scores." href="http://topics.nytimes.com/your-money/credit/credit-scores/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier">credit reports</a> and scores for its clients.</p>
<p>Molly Milinazzo and Scott Donovan, an engaged couple who live in the Dorchester section of Boston and are both 24 years old, were relieved to discover that their scores were within about 15 points of one another when they went through the Harmoney program in May. “A lot of people end up surprised, and it’s best to keep those kinds of surprises at bay,” Ms. Milinazzo says.</p>
<p>Full disclosure on the credit front is useful for two reasons. First, a credit report is, in part, a catalog of past mistakes and overall habits — <a title="More articles about loans." href="http://topics.nytimes.com/your-money/loans/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier">loan</a> payments you missed or department store credit cards you didn’t really need. That in itself is a good starting point for a discussion about what you’ve learned (or still need to learn) about handling money.</p>
<p>There’s an immediate practical side to this, too. If there are errors or low credit scores that a couple can improve, there may still be time to make the fixes so that the couple can get the best rates on a loan for their first home a year or two later.</p>
<p><span class="bold">CONTROL</span> Figuring out who will pay the bills each month may not seem to be an important conversation or assignment. But it gets tricky when both people want to take it on. “People understand that in a relationship, money is control,” says <a title="About Jeff." href="http://www.jkfinancialplanning.com/about-us.php">Jeff Kostis</a>, a<a title="More articles about financial planners." href="http://topics.nytimes.com/your-money/planning/financial-planners/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier">financial planner</a> in Vernon Hills, Ill., who walks engaged couples and newlyweds through a checklist of questions. “If you’re not paying the bills, you don’t know where the money is going, and you feel like ‘He doesn’t want me to go out with my friends’ or ‘She doesn’t want me to play in the fantasy football pool.’ ”</p>
<p>For two people who have both been on their own for a while and don’t want to give up doing the monthly financial chores their own way, Mr. Kostis suggests, at a minimum, regular household meetings complete with Quicken or other spreadsheets so that the person writing the checks can keep the other one up to speed. With more stubborn couples, he might suggest handing the controls back and forth at the beginning of each year.</p>
<p>Mr. Kuhlman, who explains the counseling approach he and his wife take with clients at<a href="http://stayhitched.com/" target="_">stayhitched.com</a>, says it shouldn’t be surprising that control issues come up constantly when talking about money. “It’s concrete, you can see it,” he says. “It’s not ephemeral or less measurable, like affection.”</p>
<p>A few things that he suggests couples discuss early on: If one person is making most or all of the money, does that person get to make most or all of the financial decisions? If you’re the car aficionado or have researched all of the local school options for the children, do you get to make the decisions about those things? “These are the kinds of things that don’t come out when you’re dating,” he says.</p>
<p><span class="bold">AFFLUENCE</span> Here’s another question that tends not to come up during courtship: Just how rich do we want to be one day? Mr. Kuhlman refers to this more politely as the “desired level of affluence.” “Are our career paths going to be something that pulls us together? Or, more often, are they things that will tend to pull us apart, where we’ll really have to be proactive to make sure it’s under control?” he says.</p>
<p>Mr. Kostis might put it a bit more bluntly, say to a spouse of an aspiring <a title="More articles about investing." href="http://topics.nytimes.com/your-money/investments/index.html?inline=nyt-classifier">investment</a> banker or corporate lawyer: Are you O.K. with acting essentially as a single parent, with your partner working 80 hours a week until the age of 80? “Not that there is a right or wrong answer,” he says. “It’s just about understanding, going into the marriage, what that would really mean.”</p>
<p>He adds that people in the financial advice business often joke that they spend half their time talking about money and the other half acting as marriage counselor. “But it’s the same communication style,” he says. “You’re giving people permission to be honest without having someone jump down their throat for giving the answer that they really want to give.”</p></div>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gary Vaynerchuk seems to know a thing or two about passion. His book &#8211; &#8220;Crush It&#8221; &#8211; details the application of his passion, and how he built his family wine business into a multimillion dollar empire. In a talk tonight at Changing Hands bookstore in Phoenix, AZ, Gary thought that finding one&#8217;s passion lies in [...]]]></description>
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<p>Gary Vaynerchuk seems to know a thing or two about passion. His book &#8211; &#8220;Crush It&#8221; &#8211; details the application of his passion, and how he built his family wine business into a multimillion dollar empire. In a talk tonight at Changing Hands bookstore in Phoenix, AZ, Gary thought that finding one&#8217;s passion lies in what they consume. In response to an audience member&#8217;s question, Gary said that to find one&#8217;s passion for work, he might try looking to what he was already consuming &#8211; t.v., media, hobbies. What was he already doing?</p>
<p>I think that says a lot, because when work isn&#8217;t work, it&#8217;s flow. Time seems to take a backseat, and one&#8217;s passion and creativity get unleashed. The passion begins to flow, and the line between work and play seems to blur.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested in two things: finding what you love to do, and then figuring out how you stop that forward progress. What negative messages and roadblocks do you experience on your way to meeting that love?</p>
<p>Sometimes the &#8220;I&#8217;m not good enoughs&#8221; or &#8220;Someone is already doing that &#8211; I can&#8217;t do what they&#8217;re doing&#8221; get in the way. &#8220;Time is limited&#8221; or &#8220;I need more training&#8221; or any number of other folkish aphorisms get in the way. An invisible ruler starts to dictate behavior, comparing yourself to this and that.</p>
<p>Passion is there, where you listen to it or not. Passion for the work you do, or for the people you help. Passion for the play that you invest in, or in the relationships you built. Passion for the new ideas that germinate in your brain, or passion for the way you do seemingly trivial or mundane tasks.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Without a rudder, it becomes really difficult to steer our boat. We get tossed about on the seas, swing this way and that. The sense of direction is lost, and our journey is haphazard and without focus momentum. Finding purpose &#8212; whether that be in our relationships, work, play or friendships &#8212; is outfitting your [...]]]></description>
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<p>Without a rudder, it becomes really difficult to steer our boat. We get tossed about on the seas, swing this way and that. The sense of direction is lost, and our journey is haphazard and without focus momentum.</p>
<p>Finding purpose &#8212; whether that be in our relationships, work, play or friendships &#8212; is outfitting your boat with a rudder. Actions and behaviors become intentional, and they become filled with a focused purpose. No longer are we just victims of circumstance or of our own lives.</p>
<p>Many people without that purpose, without that inner knowing, enter and exit situations within their lives in a very indiscriminate way. Without purpose, we are left to our impulsive mind to take over. And often times, that impulsive mind makes decisions for us that are not aligned with our deeper and truer purpose. We get into relationships that we look back on and think, &#8220;That was really not good for me in the long run.&#8221; we take jobs that we don&#8217;t really want to take, and spend money in places that we don&#8217;t really mean to.</p>
<p>Developing purpose is like bringing a high-powered laser into the equation. We have a very powerful tool in which to create a focus and energy to direct towards those people, places, and experiences that will enhance our sense of purpose, and fulfill those ideas about how our lives should be led, which makes us happier.</p>
<p>Connecting to that purpose &#8212; not just identifying it &#8212; is just as important. Learning how to connect regularly to that which brings us purpose is critical to our success and our happiness. Creating a regular relationship with those things that bring us purpose reinforces our sense of purpose and continually teaches us how to spend our precious time, energy and resources. What&#8217;s just as important is to identify those roadblocks and barriers to finding our purpose, which in some cases, can be just as much of a pursuit as going directly after our purpose.</p>
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		<title>Self-Therapy/Understanding Self-Care</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:04:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A lot of counseling clients that I talk with have difficulties knowing how to take care of themselves. They are so busy taking care of work, family, money and other life stressors that they don&#8217;t have the time or the know-how to develop and practice good self-care techniques. One of the most important ideas to [...]]]></description>
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<p>A lot of counseling clients that I talk with have difficulties knowing how to take care of themselves. They are so busy taking care of work, family, money and other life stressors that they don&#8217;t have the time or the know-how to develop and practice good self-care techniques.</p>
<p>One of the most important ideas to understand is your personal threshold point. At what point do you start to show wear and cracks? Can you recognize when you get to that point? More importantly, how can you remedy those issues before they really start to affect your mind and body wellness?</p>
<p>That personal threshold point is different for every person. Developing an understanding and clear self-awareness about when that point arises is the first step in practicing self-care. Some people have a very high threshold for stress; others start to show wear earlier.</p>
<p>For men and women alike, the concept of saying &#8220;no&#8221; is one contributing factor to practicing better self-care. We live in a very demanding culture &#8212; one that expects constant multitasking and perfectionism. Being able to say &#8220;no&#8221;&#8211; even when our environment beckons that we say &#8220;yes&#8221; &#8211; is a practice in honoring and respecting yourself. It&#8217;s knowing your limits, and it&#8217;s not giving out more than you can give, which erodes one&#8217;s ability to give anything at all.</p>
<p>Another way to understand self-care is to know what blocks or barriers come between you and the healthy image of you in your mind. We can all agree that eating well, exercising, practicing spirituality or contemplation, and the like, are all positive pursuits on the road to self-care. But, what&#8217;s more interesting is how we limit ourselves from the inside with negative self-talk.</p>
<p>What negative messages or beliefs keep you in a state of procrastination or lack of motivation? How do you undermine your own efforts, and keep yourself from the ideal healthy you in your mind? I think those questions are much more relevant, because we need only to listen to our culture which tells us to eat better, exercise daily, be happy&#8230; we know all this, and yet sometimes we don&#8217;t always do what we know is best for us in the long run.</p>
<p>Practicing good self-care is very important, but understanding our motivations and intentions, as well as the roadblocks and barriers to our own success, is even more important. If we create the right motivations and intentions, we are laying a solid foundation for the continued practice of good self-care over the course of a lifetime.</p>
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		<title>Phoenix Therapist/Counselor for Men</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phoenix Men&#8217;s Counseling &#8211; some of the benefits! - Learn better communication with your wife/ girlfriend - Feel more appreciated - Get “in sync” again with her - Break the “suffer in stoic silence” mode - Generate energy, fun and laughter - Lower stress and reduce tension - Less “thinking too much” about your problems [...]]]></description>
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<p>Phoenix Men&#8217;s Counseling &#8211; some of the benefits!</p>
<p>- Learn better communication with your wife/ girlfriend<br />
- Feel more appreciated<br />
- Get “in sync” again with her<br />
- Break the “suffer in stoic silence” mode<br />
- Generate energy, fun and laughter<br />
- Lower stress and reduce tension<br />
- Less “thinking too much” about your problems &#8211; get out of  your head<br />
- Get help for your depression &amp; start feeling better<br />
- Stop avoiding!<br />
- Be more productive on the job<br />
- Cool your angry feelings<br />
- Get the respect you deserve from others</p>
<p>I specialize in working with men who are struggling in all aspects of their lives: in relationships, in work, with money and with self-image and self-esteem issues. I am a therapist that understands the unique and complicated issues that men might not feel comfortable talking about with a general counselor. I work with guys in Phoenix, Scottsdale, Tempe, Chandler and surrounding areas. Give me a call, or e-mail directly through my website to find out more information about my services.</p>
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